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MADRID CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL PAGE

As we won't have a match between now and the Champions League final, and so no match blog through which to share our views, I thought it may be useful to have a page which people can use to post and discuss anything in connection to the Madrid final. I'm sure closer to the day itself someone will start a match blog but until then feel free to use this page to post any thoughts or information that's appropriate.

 

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  • Great idea Sam.

    We know we are playing Spurs but i'm still 50-50 as to whom i would have prefered in the final. That Ajax team played some fantastic football in all the rounds leading up to the semi final and i think they would have given us a more difficult game than spurs, some say the opposite. We've beaten spurs twice this season so we know we can beat them whereas Ajax would have been an unknown entity, it would be true to say that spurs know our game but the same applies to us knowing their game also, i just feel we have a better chance overall of beating spurs than if we had faced ajax in the final.

    • With Ajax having so many young players I had feeling that at some point is was possible, not definite but possible, that the closer they got to the final the more likely it would be that they'd crumble under intense pressure. It's no coincidence that Real Madrid won so many finals with the same old heads, experience means so much in knockout football. My hope was that we'd get Ajax in the final because I reckon the pressure our team could put them under on such a big occasion would cause at least a few of their players to forget their lines and it only takes a few to go and our players would've exploited the openings. Unfortunately, that Ajax stumble occurred a round too early for us and Spurs took advantage of it.

      What worries me with Spurs is that if their first eleven turns up on the day they are fully capable of beating us if we aren't at our best, they have some excellent individual players. If I had to measure it in percentage terms I'd put us as 55% favourites, mainly because we have the experience of playing in the final last season. There's not much between Klopp and Pochettino in terms of managerial ability, they both know how to get the best out of their players on most occasions, although statistically we probably just have the edge there too. Before I make a final judgement on the chances of either team I'd like to see which players will be available as it's often the case that finals are decided not on the pitch but in the medical room.

  • I would have preferred Ajax as I see European competition as a chance to test ourselves aginst the best on the continent.  However Spurs deserve to be there after their comeback in Amsterdam.  Games against Spurs are usually tight affairs and this may be no different.  I think Uncle has the odds about right.  We are no doubt the better team but Spurs have players who can hurt you when on their game.  We have the advantage of having been to last year's final but does that in some ways put more pressure on us?  On the other hand Spurs probaby feel this is their one chance to win this competition while we could well be back with this team in future years so in that respect the pressure is on them.  In the end I wonder if, like last year, it might come down to the goalkeepers.  Alisson is one of the most solid in Europe while Loris can be brilliant or a liability.  If we can win this first trophy I think there will be many others to follow over the coming seasons.  The first one is always the hardest.

    • I think where we undoubtedly have an advantage is in the fact that most of our squad have now experienced an event on this scale. The Champions League final is probably only second to a World Cup final in terms of an occasion and this is a factor that does matter - look how Karius pretty much fell apart on the big stage. I'm fairly confident our players will handle it but as of yet we don't know how individual Spurs players will respond. However, there is a kind of pressure that only Liverpool players will be experiencing and that is the need to bring back silverware for the fans after missing out on the Premier League. To a point this can act as a positive motivator but once it boils over into desperation it affects decision making.

       

    • There's also pressure on Spurs to bring back silverware.  Like us they have developed a strong team but have yet to win anything.  Whre the pressure is greater on us is our just missing out on the PL.  That may reinforce our players' determination but it could also work against us if the game isn't going our way.

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    There's been some subtle, but potentially important, rule changes since the last Champions League final. Each team gets to name a 23 man squad and they can pick their substitutes from any of the 12 players not chosen in the first 11. 3 substitutes can be used in normal time and an additional 1 can be used in extra time. With this in mind Klopp has taken a 26 man squad to the training camp in Marbella which he will have to reduce down to 23 for the final. The 26 players are:

    Alexander-Arnold, Alisson, Brewster, Fabinho, Firmino, Gomez, Henderson, Jones, Keita, Kelleher, Lallana, Lovren, Mane, Matip, Mignolet, Milner, Moreno, Origi, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Robertson, Salah, Shaqiri, Sturridge, Van Dijk, Wijnaldum, Woodburn.

  • I also would have preferred Ajax as both teams don’t know each other and am very wary of Spurs. It took a last gasp own goal last time to win 2-1 and am sure they still smarting from that. It’s also Klopp’s 4th final as he lost the last 3 so the pressure on him must be enormous as well.

    • I'm sure Klopp would be glad to get that particular monkey off his back.

       

  • Seems harry kane may be fit and ready for the final, not sure how i feel about that, i remember reading a stat somewhere that they faired better without him than with him in the team. No doubt he's a deadly finisher but spurs have done fine without him, thoughts on this one folks!!!!!!!!!

    • I'm pretty philosophical about it, to be honest. A final should really be between the best players they have to offer and the best players we have to offer. Whenever big players are missing in finals there's always a lingering question mark over whether the result would've been different had they played. Considering how Spurs came back against Ajax without Kane I think they're going to be hard to beat whether Kane plays or not.

       

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